As of late, I have acquired some obsessed stalkers. Blogs were posted, conversations on a conspiracy to discredit me, pictures of unknown persons with claims of them being Pat Dunaway. Pictures that were not very flattering, I might add.
The above picture is that of Pat Dunaway, me, the only person, not all the other persons that these stalkers claim me to be. I do have a better picture, made at the same time, but I really don't want these stalkers to know what I look like.
Regardless, this picture was taken when I was recognized by the City of Fontana for my "selfless contributions to the betterment of (your) community" with my work for the animals. Note the picture shows me shaking hands with the then Mayor of Fontana. This information can be verified via public records all you stalkers. As a result of my work in Fontana, a spay/neuter voucher program was established. A voucher for $50 for a dog and $25 for a cat plus we had availability of low cost services.
Here is where I stood up against the shelter that Winograd accuses me of supporting. http://www.press-enterprise.com/newsarchive/2003/02/28/1046418464.html
Pet advocates accuse city of wrongdoing
SAN BERNARDINO: They file a claim saying the shelter mishandled dogs and donations.
BY KAREN GAUDETTE
THE PRESS-ENTERPRISE
SAN BERNARDINO
A trio of animal welfare advocates has accused San Bernardino officials of misappropriating more than $10,000 donated by the public to help three emaciated puppies rescued from neglect in July 2001.
In a claim they filed earlier this week, Pat Dunaway of Fontana and Suzanne Martin and Pauline Itkin of Riverside are seeking more than $10,000 in damages.
Also I was credited by the late Nell Soto as her inspiration to make cockfighting a felony, something that went against her culture as she told me on the way to a Senate hearing committee meeting. http://www.cocka2.com/newcastle/media/med04031.htm
Press-Enterprise, CA
http://www.pe.com/business/local/PE_BIZ_nnewca02.a2144.html
Game fowl focus of disease fears
NEWCASTLE: Because of the poultry epidemic, some want to increase the penalties for cockfighting.
04/02/2003
By LESLIE BERKMAN
THE PRESS-ENTERPRISE
http://www.pe.com/business/local/PE_BIZ_nnewca02.a2144.html
Game fowl focus of disease fears
NEWCASTLE: Because of the poultry epidemic, some want to increase the penalties for cockfighting.
04/02/2003
By LESLIE BERKMAN
THE PRESS-ENTERPRISE
Soto's bill was inspired by a letter from a constituent, Pat Dunaway, 55, of Rialto. Dunaway, co-chairwoman of the Pet Assistance Foundation for the Inland Empire, said she learned that a strain of exotic Newcastle virus similar to the one plaguing Southern California was discovered earlier in Mexico, and it could have been carried here by fighting roosters. Federal and state authorities, however, say they haven't proven the origin of the current outbreak.
The County of San Bernardino has a national award winning spay/neuter program. I am proud to say that I played a role in obtaining this program that has not seen a cut throughout this bad economy. It also has been copied in other places.
The stalkers are children who don't understand that they are playing with a loaded gun. Winograd appeals to the unstable, those who are not playing in the real world and those people are dangerous.
I issue a challenge to Debi Day to prove the picture that she posted is me. Just like I have repeatedly issued a challenge to Winograd to prove what he says about me. He has yet to submit any proof and his unstable puppets just continue to believe what he says without researching it for themselves. These are a sick bunch of people and they are being instigated to commit violence with these childish pranks. Let me forewarn you, that if anything does happen to me, officials have the names of those to question first. Keep it up, dig that hole deeper, the end of all of this may be sooner than you think.
31 comments:
First of all congratulations on your accomplishments. Such a shame to have to defend your self that way. While change can be good it is sad to see years of experience in shelter managment simply ignored for the egos of a few who are able to influence the gullible and non knowing. While saving animals is always an admirable goal simply pretending there are not too many pets or pretend disease won't run rampant in over crowded shelters does nothing to help and you guessed it hurts the animals. For what it is worth a non scientific observation of response to no kill seems to indicate a growing discord among the followers who are having a hard time swallowing some of the "beliefs" of the no kill movement. Even pages that like to document no kill success cities have begun (or maybe always were) changing to defintion of open admission to fit the need for what they would like to see as an ever growing no kill movement. No doubt most will never read the fine print but at least kudos to the site for some disclodure at least. It is sad too that average shelter employees who don't set budgets, who don't set policy and have limited contorl over what they have been given to work with have some how become the "fall guy" and end up cleaning up the mess (literally) for the whole process. While I take no real joy in it it has been a bit nice to now see the no kill faction that have decided they could do a better job (Austin Pets Alive comes to mind) are now having the same issues that animal servies nation wide has had for years. Not enough money, not enough room, not enough people that care, too many animals and politicians that duck and cover rather than make an informed decision. Sorry for being long winded but I believe your eforts have made a difference.
Thank you Anon:16 but those are just a few. Another friend and I were talking one day because she was suffering much the same with untrue accusations, about how hard it is to see these horrid accusations when all we have ever done is devote our lives to stopping euthanasia for time and space. Then these rookies come in and think they know everything when they know nothing.
Don't forget that Winograd has only worked with about 10,000 animals in his entire shelter career. And those were in a small, semi rural community where the shelter handles about 3000 animals a year. That's nothing, a drop in the bucket, and this man has the gall to call himself an expert?
One additional thought. While I have no doubt no kills goal was never to really help since their breeder ties seem to be well established and since their selective support of legislation would seem to show that, in an ironic sort of way they may have actually sealed the breeders fate. By shelters going no kill they have actually thrown a spotlight on the over population issues facing shelters and that have been facing shelters for years. At some point even the most dense of the bunch will have to start wondering where all the animals are comming from. If APA arguable the best of the group for their efforts at least in Texas can't market them selves to no kill then there must be someting else going on? DUH!
I think you have hit on a key point with the expertise level. Perhaps I for one have been guilty of assuming that most of the no kill supporters knew more than they did when in reality they did not. A duh to me. Mosts total experience with animals relates to a few personal pets they have no doubt bonded with. All fine and good but clearly different from taking care of hundreds or even thousands of animals in a shelter setting. Kind of like the difference between cooking for a family or an entire army. As for the leaders that claim expertise I don't give them too much lee way as even in a small shelter you would think one would see the same issues. I guess APA will be the proving ground for volunter supported, citizen funded programs. I hope for the animals sake they succeed. Worse case is they will clearly have a better understanding of some of the challanges involved. Well not worse case but I don't want to think about that for the animals sake!
I congratulate you on all your accomplishments. I think the picture posted by Debi and the comments are libel and you should sue all of them. She's completely nuts. She has the mentality of a six year old. Hopefully her husband will finally dump her ass!
Congratulations, had you not presented a clear picture of how the No Kill movement failed more suffering would have occured.
The most ridiculous thing about Nathan Winograd and his puppy mill breeder and dog fighter terrorist nazis is that their behaviour only illuminates what a failure and con artist Winograd No Kill is.
Their attacks woke me up and made me see the ugly reality of Winograd and No Kill Advocacy or Nation or whsatever he calls it now.
Winograd and associates are admitting that people like Dunaway are right!
Why else would they spend even a second discussing Dunaway? They admit that Dunaway tells the truth about their fraud simply by giving her the importance of their attention, and trying to silence her.
No successful man would ever be stalking and persecuting women like Winograd does, either directly or through his associates. A successful man would be too busy being successful! He would be too busy with No Kill if No Kill was working, not shovelling smear to try to hide his crimes and lies.
Because he does stalk and persecute whistleblower women, and enlists his sleazy dominated breeder women to do it for him along with other men who use No Kill to make a fast buck, he highlights just what a failure he is and his program is.
By his deeds and the deeds of his associates, they admit that Dunaway has spilled the beans on them.
When I first started reading about Winograd's and No Kill Advocacy obsession with this Dunaway, I didn't believe it. If Nathan was a smart, sucessful honest man why would he even notice this individual or pay her any attention?
Then when I saw these sleazeballs, like the criminal hiding in Mexico, attacking Dunaway on Winograd's orders, I realized he was a dishonest man and a failure.
Everything he ever told us No Kill volunteers and rescuers was false.
Winograd's attacks and the actions of his associates made me dig deeper into their activities, and what I discovered was fraud and animal and people abuse.
We No Kill followers have been deceived. I doubt I would ever have figured that out if it hadn't been for Winograd and his associate's attacks on people like Dunaway.
All they manage to do is create a focus on their derangement and fraud.
Pat -contact me, we turned in San Antinio pets alive for animal cruelty.
Winograd has used me to intimidate others into silence. He knows that the others would be non profits who would speak against him. He knows they can't afford to be called murderers like he has done to me. The others have to choose between speaking out against Winograd and being able to collect donations to continue their work. They choose to continue their work and remain silent.
But even they are now to the point where they are speaking out. I advise them to not be out in the open, speak where it counts, directly to elected officials. And that is why Winograd's CAPA was tabled in five states this year, those silent ones speaking out. He's already defeated but refuses to go down with his sinking ship.
Anon:13, I don't know who to contact. Send me contact information via comments and mark Not For Publication.
One other note, never have I been cited or anything regarding cruelty or neglect toward my own pets. I have had No Killers threaten to burn my home with my pets in it however.
I have actually been involved in busting several cruel and abusive people. Maybe these No Killers just saw my name on a report involving these abusers and jumped the gun, they are good at that. And I challenge them to prove what they say.
Winograd posted two letters that were sent anonymously to many humane groups in my area. This was shortly after I asked MADD to keep a close eye on a court case of a multiple DUI offender who was also a main shrill for No Kill in Rancho Cucamonga. This woman was a drunk who loaded her child up and drove around drunk. She served time also on weekends. I was the one who reported her to the Rancho City Council and brought it out to the public. It was too much of a coincidence of my outting this person and the letters being sent.
BTW, the letters said also child abuse, I don't have children. So any child abuse would be out of the question. The drunk is guilty of child abuse for driving her child around if anything. Such are the types that follow Winograd, unstable, drunks, druggies, hoarders, you name any of the underbelly of the humane movement and those are the ones who follow Winograd.
It has been pretty much said but to summarize. Why would a program that was saving animals lives at no cost have to defend itself so much? Unless of course it was not true. Since Austin is the "Crown Jewel" of no kill as the largest area that is supposidly no kill and the the cost history and stats are pretty well (unemotionally) documented I will be interested in seeing how it turns out. If it takes a ton of money to save the animals I am all for that but don't pretend it is free. If there are not too many aniamls (dare I say pet over population) then why is Austin struggling with full shelters?
Ausitn Cruelty Charges-I have not seen the facility there so cannot comment with any credibility. However I have been in facilities that attempted to go no kill and became over run with animals and if it had have been a private home or organization would have fit the standard for a cruelty charge. The nice thing too about a cruelty charge is that jumps to a state level court if I remeber right and gets it out of the local politics to some degree. I hope you have enough evidence to take it forward. Good luck.
Now I see why Winograd and his followers are so obsessed with Pat. Backing a spay neuter program and stiffer consequences for cruelty does seem at odds with the values of the no-kill crowd. The fact that they follow the blogger YB, who says dogs would be better off with a dog fighter than being picked up by a shelter, shows the lack of compassion they have for the cruelty dogs endure in a fighting ring.
Jake, No Kill is affilated with dog fighters. Winograd No Kill and Best Friends joined with dog fighters to help them breed more and fight more pit bulls, hurt more pit bulls, chain more pit bulls, and promote pit bulls and increase the number of breeders make more money selling to the public and taking away homes for the already born and unwanted.
Of course the homes they sell to then breed the dogs, then dump the dogs, and the cycle goes on.
No Kill lobbies with dog fighters. Best Friends even had candlelight vigils to sucker the naive rescuers, except that Best Friends held the vigils with a dog fighting ring that emblazoned their kennel name on their hats and T shirts. They wanted to get back pit bulls seized in a dfighting raid so they could keep breeding them and fighting them.
Winograd No Kill represents the interests of dog fighters and breeders, namely opposing regulation and helping them avoid responsibility as well as avoiding cruelty laws so they can keep making money persecuting pit bulls for money.
Winograd was sent out to lie to good hearted but naive rescuers to convince them to be the slaves of dog fighters and breeders.
The No Kill rescue community is easily misled, why I don't know, and is hurting the very dogs they claim to love, especially pit bull rescue. Pit bull rescue is just a support system for dog fighters and breeders.
Jake you wrote "the blogger YB, who says dogs would be better off with a dog fighter than being picked up by a shelter, shows the lack of compassion they have for the cruelty dogs endure in a fighting ring."
Lack of compassion isn't the chief problem here. These breeders are neanderthals. Many of them prey on people too. They have no ethical substance whatsoever. These dogs are like objects to them, objects to use as they wish to profit from.
Whoever this blogger person you write of is, they are connected to protecting the financial interests of dog fighters. This is about protecting business, letting the dog fighters keep their breeding stock (the pit bulls) and keep on persecuting these dogs and torturing them to make a lot of money, without regulation.
Having the rescue community lobby for them, amd oppose laws that would protect the dogs in reality, and tricking rescuers into spending their money and time cleaning up after the breeders, dealing with all the many cast off and damged dogs to hide the overbgeeding and dog fighting problem.
The No Kill thing is a trick for them to use to fool naive good hearted souls like rescuers who don't even know they are helping to support the dog fighting business!
I see your avatar is a pit bull. Do you have any idea why pit bull rescuers could have allowed themselves to be tricked by a known charlatan like Winograd (and Best Friends) and his dog fighter and breeder clients?
Surely rescuers must have some inkling as to how big business operates, how they hire lobbyists to lie, how they create false charities that pretend to care but really protect the business financial interests, how they use their media contacts to write propaganda and trick people (like Christie Keith, or that Jim Gorant or whatever his name is, using the Vick dogs to trick rescuers into supporting the pit bull breeders. He's a paid mouthpiece, producing emotional propaganda to trick naive people into propping up the big business that profits from the persecution of pit bulls)
Breeding is big business. Dog fighting is big business.
I can't comprehend how educated people could have been so gullible.
But they let the dog fighters and breeders and their hired servants like Winograd lead rescuers down the path to where we are now, where more pit bulls than ever are being bred and persecuted.
Might be a touch off topic but had an interesting short discussion on Mr. Winograd's page the other day with a lady who had observed that a post with a counter opinion was deleted. Unfortuantly, Mr. Winograd had already responded to the comment so it was obvious it had been there. When I asked her about deleted posts on that page her response was that people try to put up posts to make everyone mad and then delete them. Being the curious guy I am it seems like if you posted and wanted to make everone made you would leave your post up. I asked her two questions. Can the owner of the page delete posts? Answer yes (imagine that). And why would some one put up a comment to cause an issue and then delete it. Answer that way they can get everyone using profanity and ask Facebook to ban them. Guess that is how THEY got Mr. Cooper or maybe someone just turned him in, can't say. The lady was very cordial and seemed sincere and really wanted to see the orignal post. Wouldn't it be more likely that the owner of the page (Mr. Winograd) deleted the posts that gave an opinion he did not like. I have personally seen some he deleted that contained no profanity just a different opinion. I maybe naive so is there some group out there that hunts Winograd and his followers? Another obviously solution would be don't use profanity.
Might be a touch off topic but had an interesting short discussion on Mr. Winograd's page the other day with a lady who had observed that a post with a counter opinion was deleted. Mr. Winograd had already responded to the comment so it was obvious it had been there. When I asked her about deleted posts on that page her response was that people try to put up posts to make everyone mad and then delete them. Being the curious guy I am it seems like if you posted and wanted to make everone mad you would leave your post up. I asked her two questions. Can the owner of the page delete posts? Answer yes (imagine that). And why would some one put up a comment to cause an issue and then delete it. Answer that way they can get everyone using profanity and ask Facebook to ban them. Guess that is how THEY got Mr. Cooper or maybe someone just turned him in, can't say. The lady was very cordial and seemed sincere and really wanted to see the orignal post. Wouldn't it be more likely that the owner of the page (Mr. Winograd) deleted the posts that gave an opinion he did not like. I have personally seen some he deleted that contained no profanity just a different opinion. I maybe naive so is there some group out there that hunts Winograd and his followers? Another obvious solution would be don't use profanity.
I can't really answer your questions Anon:05 about Facebook, I don't do Facebook personally. I do have people sending me links or screen shots. Also many people complain that Winograd deletes their comments, they don't do it themselves.
I don't watch his facebook page enough to tell you, I have seen it a couple of times when it was pointed out to me.
Maybe someone else has more knowledge on this than I do. I don't have the time or inclination to keep an eye on Winograd that closely.
Trick people into using profanity and get them off Facebook? That is so silly and obviously a lie, BUT it is clear that the woman who swallowed that lie does not understand that Nathan Winograd makes up lies and excuses like that to cast himself as the victim to hide his crimes.
I can't imagine anyone being gullible enough to accept that as Nathan's explanation, but he does prey on the ignorant and naive.
In fact, Winograd is the censor. Winograd consistently censors or tries to censor anything that even questions his lies or might show what a failure he is.
He doesn't want anyone asking questions that expose what a fraud he is. So he censors them.
Everything that Winograd produces is a fabrication, so if anyone upsets his applecart of lies with even a hint of disagreement or exposure of his fallacies, he knows he is in trouble.
So he censors.
Then, to try to pretend he doesn't censor, he makes up lies like the profanity lie, to try to get naive people to think he is being victimized, when he is the victimizer.
Understand that every word from Winograd is a lie or excuse, and then maybe you can figure out the truth.
Anonymous on November 8 who posted about the Facebook thing, you do realize that when criminals get caught committing a crime, the first thing they do is blame the victim. They claim the victim was conspiring to hurt the criminal!
Stalkers do it, wife beaters do it, etc.
The criminals make up excuses and lies to make people feel sorry for them, make the victim look like the bad guy, and get other people to ignore the fact that the criminal is guilty.
Their lawyers help them make up those lies and excuses.
Winograd is a criminal, a con artist, and an ex-lawyer, trained to deceive, and he does the same thing.
Winograd wants you to believe there's a conspiracy against him so you ignore his lies and failures, and don't listen to whistleblowers who expose those lies and failures.
As for Cooper, from what was coming out of that, Cooper was apparently threatening people with bodily harm on Facebook and encouraging people to hurt and kill people. There was no "conspiracy" against Cooper. Cooper is a criminal using Facebook to try to hurt people on behalf of breeders.
There is no "conspiracy" against Winograd. He's a criminal that doesn't want to be questioned or disagreed with, because that would expose his lies and crimes.
Anyway, I see people using profanity on Facebook all the time and they aren't thrown off. Yes, just assume Winograd and his people lie, and then you'll be able to get to the truth.
Winograd was censoring long before Facebook. On his blog, he allowed no discussion or comments at all after censoring for a while and getting caught.
In a few other places where he posted a while back and comments were allowed, he would attack anyone who questioned him and tell everyone to ignore that poster!
He is Mr. Censor and Mr. Liar.
Appreciate the comments about the face book page to help me understand the "goings on". I do not spend much time on his page but was curious. It is interesting that the followers rarely if ever ask any questions and it turns into a giant exercise in "group think" and almost a mob mentality. I am sure a psychologist would have a field day with the analysis. Also intersting too how he dribles out portions of his new book to get a reaction and then the "sister sites" obviously run by the same folks cross post several days later to keep the drama alive. Kind of like a soap opera. The good news is on a good day he can only seem to muster 100-200 comments at best and his likes have pretty much flatlined. The ultimate proof will be in the pudding however as to the reality of how true some of his statements are. In particular places like Austin, Lied etc. where real world data will help dispell the obvious about no additional costs, no over population and no animal suffering. Even the best spin Dr. in the world will have a hard time getting around that. Thanks again.
One additional comment. At some point you would think the cities etc. would figure out that no kill is not no cost. I think we maybe about at that point. If cities want to spend more on animals that is great! Take it to the voters and end the drama. I for one would like to see the animal srvices budget for every city go up 10,000 per cent. We will see.
Anon: 33 sorry I couldn't be of more help on the facebook info. From the little I have been sent, I agree with you. Winograd doesn't allow comments on his blog, never has.
If anyone out there has information regarding the name change from No Kill LAW and Advocacy Center to No Kill Advocacy, let me know. I think someone called about this because his license is on inactive status.
"Also intersting too how he dribles out portions of his new book to get a reaction and then the "sister sites" obviously run by the same folks cross post several days later to keep the drama alive. Kind of like a soap opera"
These are all the breeders and dog fighters. This is what they do all day long. Since they are rich tac cheats, they have plenty of time to do it.
It is all these AKC nutcases. http://
sourcewatch.
org/index.php?
title=National_
Animal_Interest
_Alliance
and related groups.
They do the same thing when their lobbyist Rick Berman sends out his propaganda, which often is nearly idetical to Winograd's. All in the same soup.
All tap away their lies wherever they can online, on the basis of if they can tell a lie so many times and spread it around, maybe someone will believe their lies.
The puppy mills (AKC's bread and butter) the dog fighters the lab animal breeders, all of that filth that tortures animals for profit. That is Winograd's constituency.
Using animals for money.
Big layoffs in Austin, I see, while the Winograd breeder tax cheats warehouse animals to let them die of disease and killing each other with tax money from people who don't have jobs.
Breeder No Kill hurts animals AND people.
Pat Dunaway, I think he did allow comments on his blog in the very beginning, but when people asked him questions about his blatant lies, or just talked about things he felt might expose his hypocrisy, he called them names, and then shut down comments.
OK, so while Winograd No Kill spends money on lawyers to sue No Kill rescuers in Florida (preying on their own) another Winograd style No Kill "sanctuary" in Florida gets busted for animal abuse
http://www.
clickorlando.
com/news/More-
than-100-
animals-
rescued-from-
DeLand-
shelter/
-/1637132/
17335134/
-/xhpyhn/-/index.html
The animals are dying in front of them, and these lunatics still scream "no we love them!"
I wonder how much income they were pulling out of donations that never reached the animals?
Nathan taught them that when they get caught, just lie.
The animals should thank the neighbors who cared enough about these poor animals in that No Kill trap. Nathan is too busy smearing whisleblowers, lying, and counting his money.
That needs to be mentioned over and over again. Kinda puts his expertise in perspective. I know I never get tired of hearing it.
I am very happy to know that you really do exist..I was very recently told that you were my mother and that you gave birth to me in a ditch in Newark N.J. One would think I would remember these details,,and it has left my real mother speechless..Lol..These haters never quit and never even sleep it seems..Sorry for all you have been wrongfully accused of. I know the feeling but to a much lesser degree..All the best. Karen Perrin.
Anon:56 Now you can be proud that you are either me or I am your mother or whatever.
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