Thursday, September 16, 2010

Another Day Passes With No Evidence Presented, Nathan Winograd

Show something other than the anonymous letters. You don't have anything other than the pissed off words of a little howdy doody hoarder, do you? Or maybe the one who took the same man to court twice for abuse but failed to show up the first time, making all women look bad of course. Maybe that one? Least we forget the drunk, multiple offender, had to report to prison on weekends, a mother too, that one is in the running as well. You have many strange bedfellows, Winey.

Pat Dunaway

15 comments:

Passing through Pah said...

Where are the anon letters? did I miss something?

HonestyHelps said...

Passing, if you look on his blog, yes I know it is difficult to look at his chubby cheeks trying to smile, but on the right is "Reqired Reading". Yeah, right, and under it is "Who is Pat Dunaway?". In that he has one or two anonymous letters that accuse Pat of being a child and animal abuser. And that is why she speaks up for the cruel shelter, blah, blah, blah. In other words, this idiot who wrote the letters is trying to make people think that Pat is a puppet of animal control and she will be charged with animal cruelty unless she speaks against the Whino and upholds the shelter. Read it yourself, that is what I get from it. Can't make this shit up, I swear, even in Hollywood.

HonestyHelps said...

By the way, forgot that he did bother to mark thru the child abuser shit. He knew better but now he brings it up. You're slipping, Whino.

passing through Pah said...

Thanks I saw them now. Also you were at the meeting according to Winograd's mouth piece and got bood? I thought you were vacationing in Australia, pretty neat trick. Maybve I have you mixed up but didn't you say awhile back you would be posting live from Sydney? How did you get to LA? Or are there two P>D's

Anonymous said...

As Barnette tries to raise pet limits for the puppy mills, AKC breeders, and dog fighters with Winograd, I wonder what the guy Rosenthal who is doing their bidding (is that the city councilor's name) is thinking.

Does he know that Winograd is working with extremist right wing, fanatical people like union buster Rick Berman, who also attacks doctors who are whistleblowers about health, and is a tobacco lobbyist?

(Berman lobbies for Barnette's AKC, where she is a lobbyist)

Is he aware that AKC and Barnette who belongs to PetPac was involved with an organization that was run by a guy who threatened Latinos that they wouldn't get 911 service from the city if they didn't give money to his corrupt lobbying group? (Winograd works with them too)

I would guess that Rosenthal promotes himself as a progressive, left wing guy.

What is he doing supporting anti-civil rights, fanatical right wing business lobbyists through Barnette and Winograd?

Barnette's friends the NAIA crowd call people like Rosenthal "Commies" and attack them. You should have seen their old online forum, with attacks on gay people, minorities, which was there to see until it got exposed and they hid it.

All that stuff got saved and is out there still, and I've seen some of it that some people saved, even though Barnette thinks it is long ago gone.

Now Rosenthal is getting duped by these right wing radicals?

Has he considered the tax cheating that Barnette's breeder associates are doing? Does he care?

If they are going to raise pet limits, they need to be getting breeder licensing fees for the breeders who will used raised pet limits to commit more tax cheating.

There needs to be a crackdown, because the LA taxpayer is paying to clean up after the tax cheat breeders that Barnette is trying to aid and abet.

These right wing radicals are using Winograd as a mouthpiece. I would guess he's pressuring Rosenthal, but didn't Rosenthal figure out he is getting manupilated?

Anonymous said...

Honesty, I thought you might want to see how these Puppy Mill Breeder etc Lobbying groups operate behind the false front of animal welfare, in particular No Kill, and how they use Winograd to help them.

This website is the Indiana Council on Animal Welfare.
(Indiana is FULL of very abusive puppy mills)

Sounds like they care about animal welfare and rescue right? They even title the page "Indiana Dog Rescue"

IT'S A FAKE!

They are a front group for the puppy mills, AKC breeders, hunting dog puppy mills, and the others opposing regulation and supporting cruelty to animals.

Notice how they glorify the puppy mills and oppose regulation for the puppy mills?

NOW notice how they promote Nathan Winograd as representing THEIR INTERESTS in opposing regulation for puppy mills (and No Kill as representing the interests of breeders and puppy millers) right there with promoting Patti Strand, the PUPPY MILL QUEEN of the AKC who also supports horrible animal abuse and attacks shelters, rescue, and humane organizations along with the allied Rick Berman and Center for Consumer Freedom which they are connected to.

There's David Martosko quoted as their representive, from Berman's Center for Consumer Freedom, Rick Berman who lobbies for the Petland puppy mill pet stores and AKC!

Winograd cannot deny that he is working with these people, because Winograd's puppy mill sponsors have outed him!

See them attack REAL humane groups like HSUS, and promote Winograd and Patti Strand and NAIA on behalf of commercial dog breeders, aka PUPPY MILLS?

They say that Winograd and Patti Strand are there working for the puppy mill breeders.

See how these puppy mill breeders are supporting attacks on animal control? Why? BECAUSE ANIMAL CONTROL BUSTS THE PUPPY MILLERS WHO ARE COMMITTING CRIMES.

The puppy millers and the rest want No Kill people in animal control who will take away laws and refuse to prosecute the abusing puppy mills, and let the puppy mills and other breeders get way with it!

PEOPLE LIKE BRENDA BARNETTE!

Winograd No Kill is a plant for puppy mill breeders and the other corrupt breeders.

It's pretty clear that the LA rescue community and the ADL LA have no idea that by supporting Winograd and Barnette, they are supporting puppy mill breeders and other animal torturers to hurt more animals and make more money.

This what Winograd FRIENDS AND SUPPORTERS write

"Whether you are a Commercial Dog Breeder or a Indiana Dog Rescue or have even been accused of being in Factory Farming. We are all in this together and the assaults just keep coming. Remember YOU might be next"

The Rescue Community got tricked into supporting the commercial dog breeders, the PUPPY MILLS! And it was done by the breeders and puppy millers using Winograd No Kill to trick the rescue community into helping them.

(Another irony is that Mr Winograd Vegan Cookbook writer is in league with FACTORY FARMERS supporting CRUEL FACTORY FARMING!)

Anonymous said...

Sorry, the Commercial Dog Breeder site posing as fake "dog rescue" and fake "animal welfare" is

http://www.
savemypets.
org/blog/
indiana-
dog-
rescue

By "save my pets" they mean save their puppy mill dogs languishing in cages getting bred to death from any kind of legislation to stop the abuse.

See how they hide behind fake claims of loving pets and rescue to PUSH FOR COMMERCIAL DOG BREEDER (puppy mill) interests?

Dog rescue has been tricked by the slimiest kind of animal abusers, the puppy mill breeders, who use the Winograds and Barnettes of the world to get rescue to swallow the lies and help the breeders.

See why Winograd attacks HSUS and other groups like ASPCA, Maddies Fund, etc?

Because those REAL humane groups support regulation to stop the puppy mill abuse!

They are the enemies of the puppy mill commercial dog breeder industry.

The Commercial Breeder Puppy mill breeders figured out that some people in dog rescue are stupid and gullible, and wouldn't figure how the puppy mill breeders are using them if the Puppy mill breeders mouthed a lot of empty words about rescue and No Kill, and set up front people to represent puppy mill interests to the redcue community. Dog rescue got tricked into supporting killing dogs!

Anonymous said...

From that page, see that WINOGRAD IS BUSTED, big time!

"We keep talking to the people at the No Kill Advocacy Center and we are convinced that there is a better way to build this mousetrap. We especially like the model that Bill Bruce uses in the Calgary Canada shelters. “We don’t have a pet problem. We have a people problem.” This is an opening statement Bill Bruce often uses to grab everyone’s attention."

The "we" who keep talking is the Indiana puppy mill breeders (commercial breeders.)

THE INDIANA COMMERCIAL PUPPY MILL BREEDERS ARE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH NATHAN WINOGRAD TO ATTACK REAL HUMANE GROUPS AND HELP THE PUPPY MILLS!!

And replace REAL animal control and humane work with Winograd No Kill/Puppy mill/Breeder lobbyists.

Winograd is working for and helping the puppy mills.

And Bill Bruce is working with the Puppy Mill breeders too!

Anonymous said...

See the All Eyes on Pennsylvania entry for why Barnette, Puppy mill Queen Patti Strand, NAIA, AKC, the puppy mills, PetPac, and their worker bee Winograd want to raise pet limits or eliminate them.

Pet Limits get Puppy millers and abusive breeders busted!!

The breeders want to do away with pet limits so they can abuse at will with no repercussions, and make as much money as they can with their abusive practices.

Makes their operations easier to hide so they can cheat on their taxes too.

Anonymous said...

Winograd's associates here in the Indiana Puppy mill industry also report that Winograd's friend, AKC Puppy Mill Queen Patti Strand and her NAIA also support abuse to elephants.

And abuse to lab animals.

What about that ADL LA?

THESE ARE THE PEOPLE YOU ARE IN BED WITH NOW, that falsely call themselves "animal welfare and rescue" so they can trick you into helping them abuse all kinds of animals for profit.

You got duped into helping Rick Berman and his extended mob, who used Winograd to do the tricking.

Anonymous said...

that savemypets fakeo website for the Indiana puppy mill breeders is set up and run by Bruce McClain of Fusework Studios in Indiana

Here Bruce's blurb is "If you don't like what's being said, change the conversation."



Sounds like Winograd right? The dirt comes out for the puppy mills and the Winograd No Kill, just change the conversation and start smearing whistleblowers with a lot of crap


He even looks like Winograd doesn't he?

http://www.
rutter
communications
.com/company/
management/

I guess Rutter Communications in Indiana is big on helping the puppy mill industry in Indiana to smear good people

Anonymous said...

Winograd is REALLY busted by that puppy mill breeder savourpets page!

BUSTED! We now see that is was the Indiana Puppy mill breeders who got Doug Rae and Nathan Winograd No Kill into the Indianapolis shelter!

This is a post (see next comment, it's long) on this fake humane page, saveourpets, run by the ICAW, the Indiana Council on Animal Welfare which is a FRONT GROUP FOR THE COMMERCIAL PUPPY MILL BREEDER INDUSTRY!

It's the Puppy Mill Breeders who want Winograd and his people in these shelters, using No Kill for the puppy millers' advantage and protection!!

The Puppy Mill breeders helped get Doug Rae hired and Winograd in there!! They were Puppy Mill breeder Plants!

Winograd cannot deny that he is working for the Puppy Mill breeder industry now! The puppy mill breeders and their lobby groups are ADMITTING IT for him!!

ICAW (or Indiana Council on Animal Welfare) IS A COMMERCIAL DOG BREEDER PUPPY MILL LOBBYING ORGANIZATION (like PetPac)

They even talk about their interests in Washoe County Nevada.

The Puppy Mill breeders duped rescue into supporting the puppy mill candidate and puppy mill interests through Nathan Winograd!! They even TALK TO WINOGRAD DIRECTLY, as they admit in another entry.

The PUPPY MILL BREEDER INDUSTRY WANTS TO INFILTRATE AND CONTROL ANIMAL CONTROL AND ANIMAL SHELTERS (to protect puppy mills) AND THEY ARE DOING IT WITH NATHAN WINOGRAD AND WINOGRAD NO KILL!

And the Puppy Mill breeders perceive that the dog rescue community are the gullible dupes who will get tricked by the puppy mills into supporting the puppy mill interests through Winograd and No Kill, exactly what is going on in LA!

The Puppy Mill breeders (with their fake animal welfare groups) are asking dog rescue to join the puppy mill breeders in getting Winograd in and Winograd people hired!

Anonymous said...

This is a post on this fake humane page, saveourpets, run by the ICAW, the
Indiana Council on Animal Welfare which is a FRONT GROUP FOR THE COMMERCIAL PUPPY MILL BREEDER INDUSTRY!

They are using Winograd No Kill to trick people in the humane world into
supporting puppy mill interests.

They are even trying to dupe the dog rescue community into giving their ICAW puppy mill lobbyist group money and support!

(just like the Responsible Dog Owners puppy mill breeder lobbying groups do)


"Indianapolis Animal Care and Control - How Do They Stop Cruelty to Animals?
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 by Craig Curry

We were all wondering the other night while talking about the firing of IACC
Director Doug Rae in October of 2009... how does Indianapolis move forward in creating a No Kill animal mentality in the IACC?

Public Safety Director Mark Renner spoke upon Rae's firing saying that Mayor
Greg Ballard's administration wanted Rae to focus more on public safety. No
one at the Indiana Council for Animal Welfare would ever want to put any
animal's health or safety at risk.

However, if none of the Indianapolis city controlled shelters move towards a No Kill mentality, we here at ICAW believe they are missing the boat. In our
last two posts we have focused on the successful programs that Calgary and
Washoe County, Nevada have had in adopting No Kill animal policies.

We know Mr. Rae is not perfect, but no one is nor will ever be. A true
community leader needs to be identified who would be able to pull from every
avenue available. We are sure that any Indiana Dog Rescue would agree, and
any of the Dog Adoption Shelters would agree as well. We already know that
the Indiana Humane Society agrees that animal rights are of the uptmost
importance.

Just like at ICAW, all of the parties that would ever be involved need to sit
down and work out their differences. They can agree to disagree! For the sake
of the animals and the reputation of Indianapolis Animal Care Control, we
hope they do.

We would like to leave you with a quote from Nathan J. Winograd: "Likewise,
just six months ago, I held a two day seminar on Building a No Kill community
in Indianapolis, attended by virtually all the rescue groups in the city and
shelter administrators from surrounding states. But even though it was in
Indianapolis, no one from the private Humane Society of Indianapolis came and
only one person from Indianapolis animal control showed up, who privately
told me she / he would get fired if the boss found out she / he was there -
fired for trying to learn how to save more lives."

"I also made unannounced visits to the two shelters. The Humane Society was
keeping over 40 empty cages to reduce costs and was importing animals from
outside Indianapolis while animals were being killed at animal control. In
2008, the director resigned. Meanwhile, Indianapolis Animal Control was
filthy and 2008 saw a series of scandals of poor care and unnecessary killing
that forced the resignation of its own shelter director."

For the sake of the animals, what do we do? You can start out by becoming a
member of the Indiana Council of Welfare for Animals. Help us help the
animals and your rights to own them"

Anonymous said...

This is a post on this fake humane page, saveourpets, run by the ICAW, the
Indiana Council on Animal Welfare which is a FRONT GROUP FOR THE COMMERCIAL PUPPY MILL BREEDER INDUSTRY!

They are using Winograd No Kill to trick people in the humane world into
supporting puppy mill interests.

They are even trying to dupe the dog rescue community into giving their ICAW puppy mill lobbyist group money and support!

(just like the Responsible Dog Owners puppy mill breeder lobbying groups do)


"Indianapolis Animal Care and Control - How Do They Stop Cruelty to Animals?
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 by Craig Curry

We were all wondering the other night while talking about the firing of IACC
Director Doug Rae in October of 2009... how does Indianapolis move forward in creating a No Kill animal mentality in the IACC?

Public Safety Director Mark Renner spoke upon Rae's firing saying that Mayor
Greg Ballard's administration wanted Rae to focus more on public safety. No
one at the Indiana Council for Animal Welfare would ever want to put any
animal's health or safety at risk.

However, if none of the Indianapolis city controlled shelters move towards a No Kill mentality, we here at ICAW believe they are missing the boat. In our
last two posts we have focused on the successful programs that Calgary and
Washoe County, Nevada have had in adopting No Kill animal policies.

We know Mr. Rae is not perfect, but no one is nor will ever be. A true
community leader needs to be identified who would be able to pull from every
avenue available. We are sure that any Indiana Dog Rescue would agree, and
any of the Dog Adoption Shelters would agree as well. We already know that
the Indiana Humane Society agrees that animal rights are of the uptmost
importance.

Just like at ICAW, all of the parties that would ever be involved need to sit
down and work out their differences. They can agree to disagree! For the sake
of the animals and the reputation of Indianapolis Animal Care Control, we
hope they do.

We would like to leave you with a quote from Nathan J. Winograd: "Likewise,
just six months ago, I held a two day seminar on Building a No Kill community
in Indianapolis, attended by virtually all the rescue groups in the city and
shelter administrators from surrounding states. But even though it was in
Indianapolis, no one from the private Humane Society of Indianapolis came and
only one person from Indianapolis animal control showed up, who privately
told me she / he would get fired if the boss found out she / he was there -
fired for trying to learn how to save more lives."

"I also made unannounced visits to the two shelters. The Humane Society was
keeping over 40 empty cages to reduce costs and was importing animals from
outside Indianapolis while animals were being killed at animal control. In
2008, the director resigned. Meanwhile, Indianapolis Animal Control was
filthy and 2008 saw a series of scandals of poor care and unnecessary killing
that forced the resignation of its own shelter director."

For the sake of the animals, what do we do? You can start out by becoming a
member of the Indiana Council of Welfare for Animals. Help us help the
animals and your rights to own them"

Anonymous said...

That ICAW saveourpets website (Indiana Council on Animal Welfare also known as a front group for Indiana Puppy Millers) is run by Craig Curry.

He is a "special projects manager" for the Uncle Bill's Pet Store chain, a pet store chain that sells commercial breeder puppy mill puppies. AKC registers many of those mill puppies they sell.

Notice three big glaring comments by this puppy mill lobbying group ICAW

"David Martosko is a very credible resource"

(Martosko works for Rick Berman's Center for Consumer Freedom, the lobbyist for animal killers and abusers and the puppy mill and pet store industry)

"our friend Patti Strand"

the AKC Puppy mill queen who solicits registration business from these puppy mills and pet stores


AND



"Our friend Nathan J Winograd"


Winograd got outed by the PUPPY MILL INDUSTRY that he is working for now.


Winograd tried to lie, he tried to hide it, the puppy mill breeders outed him as their associate!

Which is why the puppy mill breeders and AKC want Winograd's Barnette in LA to help the puppy mills.

(And Bill Bruce of Calvary got outed by the puppy mills too, who want animal control to let the puppy mill breeders abuse their dogs without questions by animal control, which Bill Bruce is happy to do, and call it No Kill!)