Friday, November 12, 2010

I Think I Am In Love

Stark nailed the Whiney again. http://4k2.org/blog/winograds-cheap-shots/

Stark failed to mention that Camille Hankins is also the head of WAR. They are an arm of ALF. The co founder Greg Kelly is now running ADL and the local ALF cell along with Pam and Jerry. See how Whiney surrounds himself with the lowest of the low, anyone who has good sense and a clean record won't touch him. Just makes me wonder what is in the background of Brent Toellner, Ryan Clinton, and Mike Fry. Stay tuned.
Pat Dunaway

43 comments:

Anonymous said...

"I think I'm in love," ha ha ha! Umm, me too.

It's good to see people calling Winograd on the carpet. People are finally seeing the light. This man is all words and no action. He merely attacks everyone except his odd supporters. His supporters range from militant activists to disgruntled ex-shelter employees to cat hoarders. He needs to be shut down.

HonestyHelps said...

Let's not forget Brenda Barnette and her druggie vet who prescribed medication for himself using his dead dog's name. These are the types that follow Winograd. Are ya listening low lifers Toellner, Clinton, and Fry? What's lurking in your backgrounds? Stick with Winograd and we'll find out what secrets you guys are hiding.

Anonymous said...

Does everyone know WHY Winograd is attacking the HSUS now? Understand the timing?

The puppy mill regulation bill passed in Missouri.

Rick Berman, the AKC, PetPac, and the other pro-cruelty business lobbies fought against regulation, but their lies failed.

Rick Berman has officially sent out the word to his propagandists to attack HSUS.

Winograd is simply doing what Rick Berman and the animal profiteers tell him to do.

Winograd is just one crank in the Rick Berman stable.

Anonymous said...

I disagree though with the "talented organizer" line.

Winograd is not. He has never been a talented anything.

The only thing that gave him a bit of attention was when he signed on with Rick Berman and the Center for Consumer Freedom, and the animal profiteers promoted him because they thought they found a pigeon who could play the "animal welfare" front while he worked for the puppy millers and the rest.


He's failed for them too. He makes them look even worse, makes them look downright crazy and sets them up for examination, and calls attention to their issues that they would rather keep hidden.

HonestyHelps said...

No doubt. Just happy that someone else is seeing the light and isn't afraid to stick his neck out to speak against the Whiney. Maybe Whiney will lay off me for awhile since he has a new enemy.

This is Pat Dunaway

Anonymous said...

Nathan Winograd is attacking the volunteers and workers at animal shelters, when he was responsible with his cronies Douglas Rae and Tara Darby Derby for some of the worst abuses inflicted on animals at their Winograd PACCA animal control in Philadelphia?

Where volunteers and rescues actually went to law enforcement about the abuse that the Winograd mob was committing against animals?

Where Winograd's crew was thrown out of the city and lost the contract because of these abuses?

Honesty, is there a way to send you PACCA information?

Anonymous said...

Volunteers and rescue groups in California, Nathan Winograd and his Berman puppy miller gang not only want you to slave for them and spend your money helping them, they want to spit at you at the same time and blame you for their failures.

Nathan Winograd and Rick Berman clearly are getting more aggressive about stamping out animal welfare, and they'll start by hurting the volunteers, shelter workers, and rescue groups.

Also, animal control union, Rick Berman and Nathan Winograd want to annihilate you! They want no laws and no law enforcement for their puppy mills!

HonestyHelps said...

Anon, you can send it as a comment. I moderate comments and if you don't want it published, then say that at the beginning of the comment. Because of the Whino's stalking habits, I don't release an email to anyone. I would love to have anything that you may have on PACCA. All I have is the news reports and the City's audit.

Anonymous said...

The volunteers and rescue groups at Winograd's PACCA animal control in Philadelphia exposed the abuses that his hand-picked cronies following Nathan Winograd's plan were inflicting on animals AND on the rescue groups and volunteers.

They were so outraged they went public.

Here is just a tase of what Winograd did to volunteers and rescue groups with PACCA while his cronies raked in the taxpayer money and got paid fat salaries.

LA, this is coming for you with pro-puppy mill Brenda Barnette now a Winograd pawn.

(Next post)

HonestyHelps said...

Stay tuned about Barnette. There's stories in the works that will blow her right out of town.

Anonymous said...

THIS IS WHAT WINOGRAD DID TO THE RESCUE and VOLUNTEER "COMMUNITY" in Philadelphia before he and his cronies were thrown out of the city!

"August 1, 2008, 5:46PM

Philadelphia Craig's List

Want to Foster for PACCA? Hope You Have a Fat Wallet (Philadelphia)

Think twice before volunteering your home for an animal from PACCA/PAWS.

1. They do not do ANY testing what so ever, so the animal you bring into your home could be very sick and you put your resident animals at risk of
sickness also. They do not test for Parvo, heartworm, distemper among other issues. The dog just gets an overall evaluation and then is stuffed in the
back until evaluated by the evaluator who spent 1 week at Bad Rap out in CA.

2. They do not test cats for FIV or FIP among other illnesses that cats can contract being a stray or even an owner surrender.

3. If you do foster an animal from PACCA and it becomes sick in your care, fat chance at PACCA backing up what they say, unless the dog has Kennel Cough and you will be lucky to get meds for that.

How do I know all this, well I dropped almost $2000.00 on 4 of 5 foster dogs living in my home from PACCA. When going to PACCA asking for help
was told nothing could be done, they could not help me out. These where PACCA's animals, and they did not help us out, and there are many other
foster parents going through the same issues. There are many other reputable organizations that stand behind their word, unlike PACCA who feeds on
good hearted people trying to save a life. I was one of those good hearted people, I saw others like me getting crapped on.

Many volunteers at PACCA donate their hard earned money to help others who's foster animals need medical services and are getting nowhere with PACCA/PAWS. A dog that had pneumonia and needed serious medical care was denied the so-called "Lucky Fund" because he did not fit the criteria. Apparently NO sick animal fits the criteria for anything, including the "so-called" Lucky Fund. So a fair warning for unfairly treated foster parents and volunteers who pour their hearts and souls into this shelter and future volunteers and foster parents."

Anonymous said...

This is what Nathan Winograd and his cronies did at PACCA PAWS in Philadelphia when they smeared animal control, and then took over. Winograd and gang committed animal abuse to the maximum degree. Winograd has this blood on his hands.

The volunteers and rescue groups were so upset at the death and suffering that Winograd and cronies were comitting at PAACC, they set up a website to document it. It was taken down, probly because that cheap thug Winograd and his Bermanists threatened them.

I have it.

Faithful but Forgotten is the known cruel hoarder and dog killer that rescue groups begged the Winogradites to avoid, begged them not to send PACCA dogs to these killers. The Winogradites STILL DID IT to try to make the No Kill numbers "look good"!

And even after Douglas Rae, COO and Winograd's crony at PACCA, did this to animals with Tara Derby Darby, WINOGRAD STILL PROMOTED DOUGLAS RAE AND SLEAZED HIM INTO A JOB AT INDIANAPOLIS ANIMAL CONTROL, where the same kinds of things happened. Winograd KNEW about the abuses, but he supported and promoted the the abusers to seize control of another shelter and implement Winograd No Kill Killer techniques.

"February 07, 2008
RE: PACCA

Something needs to be done. The fact that they turned over 70+ dogs to Faithful but Forgotten given what we all knew about her still boggles my
mind. All they care about is the numbers because why else would they turn over so many dogs to a "rescue" who had been banned from pulling from
nearly every other shelter in the area? I blame them, among other things, for the death of that poor white shepherd, who face STILL haunts me.

PAACA has a history of leaving injured animals to suffer and they blame the "Law" for the reason the animals aren't treated. I will never forget
PAACA citing the LAW when a severely beaten white shepherd was left in a kennel run COVERED in blood and in a tremendous amount of
pain as the reason why they weren't providing any medical treatment. Since the dog was brought in as a stray, he had to sit in a run for 48 hours
in case the owner came in?? If that is the law, then that is an issue. I cannot imagine why we'd allow animals in pain and bleeding all over place to sit
and suffer in the event the owner stops in to look around. I would think an owner would be happier to find their dog had been treated then left to sit
and bleed out. This particular dog could have died due to the condition he was in. A volunteer was outraged and alerted rescuers to what was going
on with this poor boy. Luckily the day she stepped forward and let folks know was the day he could be released. Several rescues rallied around and
had this boy transported to a vet for immediate treatment and then taken into a foster home. I have photo's of this poor boy at the vet the day he was
pull, after he was cleaned up ....with a big gaping hole in his head. I know there are others on this email who will remember this situation very clearly
and the dog that I am referring to.

I, too, think its very interesting that PAACA was only cited when Rick had someone with him. How many other places could receive warnings if he
was accompanied? Something is just not right, and sadly, its the animals that are paying the price."

Anonymous said...

This is what Nathan Winograd and his cronies did at PACCA PAWS in Philadelphia when they smeared animal control, and then took over. Winograd and gang committed animal abuse to the maximum degree. Winograd has this blood on his hands.

The volunteers and rescue groups were so upset at the death and suffering that Winograd and cronies were comitting at PAACC, they set up a website to document it. It was taken down, probly because that cheap thug Winograd and his Bermanists threatened them.

I have it.

Faithful but Forgotten is the known cruel hoarder and dog killer that rescue groups begged the Winogradites to avoid, begged them not to send PACCA dogs to these killers. The Winogradites STILL DID IT to try to make the No Kill numbers "look good"!

And even after Douglas Rae, COO and Winograd's crony at PACCA, did this to animals with Tara Derby Darby, WINOGRAD STILL PROMOTED DOUGLAS RAE AND SLEAZED HIM INTO A JOB AT INDIANAPOLIS ANIMAL CONTROL, where the same kinds of things happened. Winograd KNEW about the abuses, but he supported and promoted the the abusers to seize control of another shelter and implement Winograd No Kill Killer techniques. Rae of course got fired again.

Information in next post.

Anonymous said...

"February 07, 2008
RE: PACCA

Something needs to be done. The fact that they turned over 70+ dogs to Faithful but Forgotten given what we all knew about her still boggles my
mind. All they care about is the numbers because why else would they turn over so many dogs to a "rescue" who had been banned from pulling from
nearly every other shelter in the area? I blame them, among other things, for the death of that poor white shepherd, who face STILL haunts me.

PAACA has a history of leaving injured animals to suffer and they blame the "Law" for the reason the animals aren't treated. I will never forget
PAACA citing the LAW when a severely beaten white shepherd was left in a kennel run COVERED in blood and in a tremendous amount of
pain as the reason why they weren't providing any medical treatment. Since the dog was brought in as a stray, he had to sit in a run for 48 hours
in case the owner came in?? If that is the law, then that is an issue. I cannot imagine why we'd allow animals in pain and bleeding all over place to sit
and suffer in the event the owner stops in to look around. I would think an owner would be happier to find their dog had been treated then left to sit
and bleed out. This particular dog could have died due to the condition he was in. A volunteer was outraged and alerted rescuers to what was going
on with this poor boy. Luckily the day she stepped forward and let folks know was the day he could be released. Several rescues rallied around and
had this boy transported to a vet for immediate treatment and then taken into a foster home. I have photo's of this poor boy at the vet the day he was
pull, after he was cleaned up ....with a big gaping hole in his head. I know there are others on this email who will remember this situation very clearly
and the dog that I am referring to.

I, too, think its very interesting that PAACA was only cited when Rick had someone with him. How many other places could receive warnings if he
was accompanied? Something is just not right, and sadly, its the animals that are paying the price."

Anonymous said...

WINOGRAD's PACCA!!


"February 07, 2008
RE: PACCA

The thing for me that is very hard to understand is rick martrich has been the only agent going out to inspect PACCA..and not once has he cited
them for anything, then he goes with verna north, and they were cited! coincidence? i think not. i do animal rescue and am in contact with numerous rescuers who are appalled with this facility. at any given time you can walk in there and see sick, and often dying animals..something is very wrong
here.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
March, 2008

I was looking at PACCA's last inspection report (January 2008) and I couldn't help but notice that Rick Martrich states that PACCA "Sold/Boarded/Adopted" 1728 in the prev 12 months. And yet PACCA/PAWS claims that they accepted approximately 30,000 animals last year.

Making allowances for cats and other animals, the figures are off by about 27,000 animals, or 90% of the animals they claim to help.

Why didn't Rich Martrich inspected all their records? Or didn't PACCA have records to inspect? If they didn't, then they should be cited.

Click Here to view the PACCA inspection report.

Wardens inspecting our kennel have always been extremely thorough as far as examining our records of incoming and outgoing dogs. On one of
PACCA's inspections, Warden Martrich put "0" in the box. xxxxxxxx must have two years of complete records for the wardens to examine.
I insist that you ask PACCA for two years of complete records reflecting the number of dogs they claim to have helped. It is not fair that we
must keep accurate records and they do not.

I'm also wondering why PACCA has never received a 72 vet check considering the number of sick and half-dead animals we have pulled from this
facility. We are to receive a Yorkie/Poodle Mix from PACCA tomorrow with pneumonia, left untreated for nine days.

I trust two wardens are now inspecting this shelter as required by the Bureau's new policy. Who accompanied Rich Martrich on his January 2008 inspection?

Please consider this a formal complaint and treat it with urgency and confidentiality.

Thank you."

Anonymous said...

MORE ON NATHAN WINOGRAD'S PACCA in Philadelphia, before he and his cronies were run out of town for these abuses

"March, 2008

According to the latest state inspection report (available on the PDA's web site), PACCA "moved" slightly more than 1700 dogs in the past twelve
months. It is right there on their inspection report of January 2008. Approximately 1700 dogs. This includes all the dogs taken in by PACCA,
euthanized, picked up by PSPCA and other rescues, picked up as strays, returned to owners, dogs that died while in their care, adopted, etc.
All of the dogs the licensed kennel "Adopts, Sells, Boards, etc" This information must be accurate. This is a state inspection.

PACCA claims to have taken in over 30,000 animals in 2008. Let's say some of those animals were cats that do not have to be mentioned on state inspection reports, this is still a shocking number of animals unaccounted for. Either the warden for Dog Law (Supervisor Rick Martrich) made a gross
error and didn't review all of their files, or PACCA didn't have the files to review. Which is against the law. Every licensed kennel in PA must keep
complete records of every dog that comes through their doors.

I would suggest your reporter contact Jessie Smith (Special Deputy to the Bureau of Dog Law) and ask her why one of her supervisors did not review PACCA's complete records. Because maybe they don't exist??? Again, this is illegal.

If you take the number of total dogs they handled in 2008 (right there on their January 2008 inspection report) and add the same number of cats
(wouldn't be on the report), 90% of their animals are not accounted for. They certainly cannot claim to handle 30,000 then tell the state it is 1700. Something is terribly wrong here."

Anonymous said...

These are all from the RESCUE GROUPS AND VOLUNTEERS who experienced Nathan Winograd's No Kill killing machine first hand at PACCA in Philadelphia.

This is FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE.

These are the kinds of things Nathan Winograd doesn't want anyone to know while he spins his lies with his puppy mill supporters.

This is what Winograd wants to do at other shelters. When the abuse goes public, be will blame the volunteers and rescue groups!

NEXT POST WITH MORE INFO FOLLOWS THIS ONE

Anonymous said...

""Philadelphia Craig's List
Reply to: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@craigslist.org
Date: 2008-08-02, 4:58PM EDT

The Benefits of Fostering with PACCA/PAWS

1. The Foster/Breeder Program

Looking to make a quick buck, PACCA whom is so desperate to get dogs out the doors, sends home unaltered animals to foster.

Don't think it happens, think again!

PACCA part of the solution or part of the problem?

You think they keep track of all the dogs (especially Pit Bulls) that come in & out of PACCA, nope!

Think about it.

*Note to PACCA alter your animals before sending them into foster homes, they are going to be adopted anyways.*

Imagine how many dogs leave PACCA into foster homes UNALTERED, people lie and they know that PACCA will not check out their home
(although volunteers have offered their time, time and time over again to do so, they get ignored).


PACCA is setting these dogs up to fail... I bet if someone looked deep enough into this matter they would find many records (if there are any)
leaving into foster and never returning for a spay or neuter surgery.


PACCA is a great place for the potential back yard breeder to find their next money maker.

Don't be so naive to think everyone is honest, caring, animal loving people!

Just think that pretty little Pit Bull that just went into foster care, could be in a cold, dark, damp basement pumping litter after litter of puppies out for
that sweet loving couple that came in to save a life!

Looks are deceiving and when you are not part of the solution, PACCA you are part of the problem.

How do I know this? I witnessed it volunteering at the shelter first hand, and when I brought it to Employee G's attention, I got ignored...And then I
went to someone else, who stated not to worry about it.

"Find the biggest one, oh yea, she will make good pups!" Quoted from the loving foster parents in Row 'A'.'

Anonymous said...

"Think PACCA cares, think again....And I am referring to PACCA, not the volunteers, who just get ignored when they bring things to people's
attention...

Numbers, Adoptions & Returns

PACCA is so quick to boast about how their adoption rate is up 60%, but ask them the numbers of returns and if looks could kill you
would be a skeleton!


So many dogs get matched up with the wrong homes, and end up back in an already too full shelter, to be killed, because the shelter is too full!

-

Give proper medical care (diseases are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get)

Stop sending animals home with people who already have 15 or more animals in their home, (cross-contamination people!)

And then they wonder why their kittens are dropping like fly's.

Test your animals before giving them to clueless foster parents. (Parvo, heartworm, distemper, FIP, FeLV, FIV, URI's are serious things here
my friends!)"

Anonymous said...

MORE ON NATHAN WINOGRAD'S NO KILL PROGRAM AT PACCA IN PHILDELPHIA

"Monday, September 8 via Email

Rec'd a call from a new PACCA volunteer this AM who said:

Staffers/volunteers in the lobby were told not to take in any more animals. She said a dog was brought in and the desk to her that PACCA was full!
The person said people in the neighborhood were throwing stones at the dog - who was obviously homeless - but they still wouldn't take him.

Some of the rooms where they house the cats were 90 degrees - or more - over the weekend and that several were dying due to being sick and in
the heat.

There's no basic equipment!! Staff members bring in their own dust pans to clean because PACCA won't buy them.

She told Employee G about it but he just nodded and walked away."

HonestyHelps said...

Boy, Anon, you should be writing this blog. These complaints are typical of the Whino's program. The problem is getting them in writing and the people standing behind them to the officials. Thanks for all this, we can use it in our fight. This stuff just doesn't sit on this blog, believe me, it is used. This blog is just a means to keep track of it.

Anonymous said...

More of Nathan Winograd's No Kill work and abuse in PACCA in Philadelphia. These are from volunteers and rescue groups experiencing this abuse first hand at the shelter that Winograd and gang took over, as Winograd is still exhorting people who would do things like this to do. They want to bring this abuse to more shelters.

Following post

Anonymous said...

"April, 2008

I was at PACCA on Sunday of the weekend they had the first $1 cat/kitten sale because there was also a spay/neuter clinic for feral trapped cats
that day that was done by a group of feral cat trappers and volunteer vets and techs.

We (cat trappers and volunteers) were in the big area of Vector Control at PACCA when we heard a soft meowing sound coming from behind
some air conditioning equipment and duct work. We discovered a small long-haired black kitten back there, just out of reach, meowing. We
managed to extricate the kitten. There were no signs posted about a cat or kitten loose or lost, no traps set, no information at all to indicate that any
of the shelter people knew the kitten was there, afraid, with no food or water. He had no shelter identification on him. I put him in a carrier and put
him in line to be neutered and vaccinated with my trapped cats as a stray I found.

In the afternoon we were recovering our cats from surgery-taking temperatures, checking breathing and incisions, cleaning ears, and treating for fleas. Someone came out of the surgery and into the space we were using and handed me a small kitten wrapped in a towel. She was about 8 weeks old
and had just been spayed. Her fur was wet and she was crawling with fleas, which were easily visible on her white fur-they were crawling into the unconscious kitten's eyes and ears and mouth and all over her fur.

I wrapped her in a dry towel and spent the next hour or more removing fleas with tweezers until she was clean and dry. Again, there was no shelter identification on her, no documentation as to her surgery, nothing. I assume she was a shelter kitten who was delivered to our recovery area by
mistake since PACCA did no "recovery" care on the shelter kittens they were neutering. Since there was nothing to identify her as a shelter kitten,
I took her home with me along with the black kitten. They were both adopted into loving homes that had good vet and personal references.
I took them because I thought they had a better chance of going to good homes under my care than if I left them at the shelter, especially during the
$1 adoption days, where screening potential adopters was non-existent. I suppose I still owe PACCA $1 or $2.

(continued in next post)

Anonymous said...

(continued. See how they do it. No Kill fakes numbers, by listing dead animals they have killed as adopted. Lies and more lies to play corporate tricks with numbers and stats so Winograd can falsely claim success)

"In April 2006, I saw a PACCA cat on Petfinder. She was listed as a "senior" cat-older cats are unfortunately the hardest cats to place because
everyone loves a cuddly kitten. I e-mailed the PACCA adoptions e-mail (adoptions@pacca.us) that was in use at the time. I e-mailed several times,
saying I wanted to adopt the cat. I never received a reply. On that Friday, I left work and went directly to the shelter to adopt her immediately.

After much searching and delay, an animal control officer came out to the waiting room and told me the cat had been euthanized 'because of illness.'

I left the shelter grieving. If they had answered my e-mail I could have taken her out of there before she became ill, if in fact she had truly been ill and euthanized for that reason.

In the middle of the next week, I received a phone call from PACCA in response to my e-mails. The PACCA person who called me told me that the
cat I wanted had been adopted. Adopted, posthumously??


I only ever knew her as ID#054175, posted 3/31/06 by JT; I never learned her name. I still have the Petfinder print-out with her photo and ID# on it because you never forget the ones that slip through your fingers and are lost."

Anonymous said...

Another friend of Nathan Winograd?

SANDI COY.

This head of the "responsible dog owners of the east coast" connected to "responsible dog owners of the west coast" (aka DOG BREEDERS, puppy millers, dog fighters, etc) and NAIA/Berman connected

Remember when Winograd took money from one of these groups?

Sandi Coy is recently promoting Nathan Winograd and promoting Winograd No Kill, particularly in Kentucky.

Who is Sandi Coy, you might ask?

http://www.
campkatrina
.net/Sandi
%20Coy%20
Page.htm


A convicted animal abuser, killed dog(s), CHARGED AGAIN! Do you wonder why Winograd and his breeders like Barnette and Coy hate Animal Control who investigate abuse like Coy's and get her charged? Winograd wants to fire animal control and replace with his cronies so the Coys and their kind get protected

And Coy does it AGAIN! Repeat offender!

http://www.state-
journal.
com/news/
article/
4521063

Scroll down for Coy's busted for dogfighting friends. These are the kinds of people pushing for Winograd's No Kill Killing.

http://www.
campkatrina.
net/

These are the kinds of people supporting and promoting Nathan Winograd, and smearing to hurt shelter volunteers, workers, animal control, and get THEMSELVES in under the scam of No Kill to cash in and abuse, and to change/eliminate laws so they can get away with their abuse with no charges !!

All Rick Bermanists, the animal profiteers

HonestyHelps said...

Are Sandi and Melanie Coy related, two different people or one in the same?
http://cravendesires.blogspot.com/2010/05/
melanie-coy-champion-of-pits-profits.html

HonestyHelps said...

Anon, you know how the city's audit found the record keeping was non existant. Dogs being euthanized as bite cases and people had to receive rabies treatments. As important as that is and they couldn't get it right, one can only imagine the rest of the story.

Anonymous said...

More on Winograd's PACCA in Philadelphia from the people who volunteered. and did rescue and experienced this Winograd No Kill abuse first hand

"April, 2008

In addition to what I state below I can tell you the following: I was at PACCA on the first day of the dollar kitten sales because I would routinely
take kittens and/or moms & babies out for several different rescue groups. When I called the rescues and told them about the "sales" I was asked to
get out what I could.

I saw students (I don't know what year) doing neuters on the male kittens in the room that held mom cats & their litters. It was not a surgical room,
nor was it clean. After surgery the kittens were being laid on the tops of carriers. Some had towels under them and some did not. Many were
crawling with fleas. Some had obvious ear mites. I doubt very much if any new owner was told about their health conditions. And I doubt that
PACCA treated them. I was also told later, by another rescue person, that she found one of the little boys in a cage, dead. Apparently no one
checked on the kittens that were spayed or neutered that day. The kitten had obviously been dead for awhile, according to my friend.

(continued in next post)

Anonymous said...

(conitinued)

"When I looked into the cages in the holding area two litters got my attention immediately. One was a litter of 6 or 7, mostly calico. They were about
4-5 weeks old. The ones that could cry were crying loudly - they had no food. They were soaking wet and they smelled like garbage. I asked a
woman who worked there why they were wet and she said "they were hosed down". When I asked why she said "because they stink!". I told her
I would take them. The second litter got my attention because I noticed one of the kittens looked worse then her littermates. Then I saw her dragging
one of her legs (it turned out that the rescue that took her treated her for a broken leg).

None of these kittens had any vet care. I know - I asked.

Some cages had some type of dry food and some did not. I presume it was adult cat food because Tara told me PACCA was out of kitten food.
(WHY would there be no kitten food - during kitten season?)

As a follow up - the little male kitten with the birth defect, mentioned below, was neutered by a tech or a student. He was in the same room
as the other little males being neutered - by students. The tech on duty told me of the birth defect but said she decided "she should neuter him anyway".
He was still unconscious when I took him and I had over an hour drive to deliver all the kittens. I stopped several times to check on all the kittens
that were not awake. The kitten with the birth defect was having trouble breathing and before I even arrived at the rescue's vet hospital I had taken
him out of the carrier & was holding him in a towel on my lap while I drove. He needed help & I couldn't help him - and I was crying the whole way.

When I arrived at the hospital they immediately put him into oxygen but nothing could be done.

As for the little flea infested female, also mentioned below, she died too. The vet hospital tried everything to save her and she had excellent
care & food for a few days but she was just too emaciated to survive. Without immediate vet care when she arrived at PACCA what chance
did she have? NONE.

PACCA and Tara (my note Derby or sometimes written as Darby, Winograd's hand picked, personal crony to run this shelter) were far too concerned with selling these babies then even giving them the bare minimum of vet care or even food.

These are only a few of the horror stories."

Anonymous said...

(conitinued)

"When I looked into the cages in the holding area two litters got my attention immediately. One was a litter of 6 or 7, mostly calico. They were about
4-5 weeks old. The ones that could cry were crying loudly - they had no food. They were soaking wet and they smelled like garbage. I asked a
woman who worked there why they were wet and she said "they were hosed down". When I asked why she said "because they stink!". I told her
I would take them. The second litter got my attention because I noticed one of the kittens looked worse then her littermates. Then I saw her dragging
one of her legs (it turned out that the rescue that took her treated her for a broken leg).

None of these kittens had any vet care. I know - I asked.

Some cages had some type of dry food and some did not. I presume it was adult cat food because Tara told me PACCA was out of kitten food.
(WHY would there be no kitten food - during kitten season?)

(continued in next post)

Anonymous said...

(continued)

"As a follow up - the little male kitten with the birth defect, mentioned below, was neutered by a tech or a student. He was in the same room
as the other little males being neutered - by students. The tech on duty told me of the birth defect but said she decided "she should neuter him anyway".
He was still unconscious when I took him and I had over an hour drive to deliver all the kittens. I stopped several times to check on all the kittens
that were not awake. The kitten with the birth defect was having trouble breathing and before I even arrived at the rescue's vet hospital I had taken
him out of the carrier & was holding him in a towel on my lap while I drove. He needed help & I couldn't help him - and I was crying the whole way.

When I arrived at the hospital they immediately put him into oxygen but nothing could be done.

As for the little flea infested female, also mentioned below, she died too. The vet hospital tried everything to save her and she had excellent
care & food for a few days but she was just too emaciated to survive. Without immediate vet care when she arrived at PACCA what chance
did she have? NONE.

PACCA and Tara (my note Derby or sometimes written as Darby, Winograd's hand picked, personal crony to run this shelter) were far too concerned with selling these babies then even giving them the bare minimum of vet care or even food.

These are only a few of the horror stories."

Anonymous said...

More on Winograd's PACCA when he and his cronies ran that in Philadelphia. Winograd and cronies release animals to KNOWN HOARDERS, even though they are warned ahead of time.

"Handing off animals to rescue operations that have not been fully checked out.

PACCA prefers to deal with state-registered 501(c)3 nonprofits, but will release animals to any valid rescuer after checking with a veterinarian to
ensure that the rescuer has a good reputation for keeping the animals healthy, safe and current on shots.

One horrible case cited by critics as proof of PACCA's rush to get animals out of the shelter at all costs was the transfer of 76 PACCA dogs to the
Faithful But Forgotten Friends shelter in western Pennsylvania. When that shelter was raided last October, 215 dogs were seized, many of them
emaciated or diseased. The shelter operator was charged with animal cruelty.

Derby says the person who released dogs to Forgotten Friends was let go."

HonestyHelps said...

Anon, as I read these comments, I do so with a heavy heart. I can believe them all too easily. All the Whinonettes care about is pushing them out the door. Not once have I seen anything from his followers that says they truly care about animals, just about their own egos. Winograd is all about ego, a short, chubby man who was probably rejected by all the kids at school. So he has launched his program in such a way as to get back at his bullies by hurting and killing their pets.

There is a story that when you die and you are knocking on the gates of heaven, God makes you go through all the animals that you have come in contact with while living. He allows them to make the decision as to whether you can pass thru the pearly gates. Winograd doesn't stand a chance and that makes me feel good about dying because I know that I won't have to see him there. He'll be torn to shreds by all those animals he has harmed with his murdering program. The Devil has his number for sure.

Anonymous said...

How the Winograd No Kill Scam got sold to Philadelphia, complete with Winograd's LIES about Tompkins County, San Francisco, and heavy sales pressure. And Winograd then took Pacca animals down the road to hell! He's pointing the finger at anyone? (Remember the pit bull with mange he TURNED AWAY at Tompkins County? But see how this guy lies, and if the gullible don't research his lies, they get scammed.)

"ON A RAINY NIGHT last February, Nathan Winograd, a bespectacled Stanford Law School grad and founder of “No Kill Solutions” in San Clemente, California, spoke to a standing-room-only crowd at City Hall and delivered the prophecy. It was the same one Derby-Perrin had heard at that conference, the one that changed her life. Power point by power point, he described the relative animal utopias he helped create in San Francisco, and then in less affluent Tompkins County in central New York. In four years there, he’d transformed a $150,000 annual deficit into a $23,000 annual surplus, raised enough private funds to build a state-of-the-art pet adoption and surgery center, and decreased the number of animals killed by 75 percent. And that meant finding homes for — and this is where it got kind of irresistible, if slightly farfetched — “second chance” pets like the ones that now paraded overhead: A pit bull with ringworm. Five blind cats. A one-eyed, 14-year-old dog. A 12-year-old cat with two fractured legs. A dog that wears diapers. The message, delivered to the strains of “I’m a Believer,” was that Philadelphia could do it, too. At the time, it sounded slightly over the rainbow.

This is Pat Dunaway said...

Anon, I listened to that speech at Rancho Cucamonga. I also spoke at that fiasco calling him on these lies concerning his deficit, etc. That's why he hates me so much. He never once responded to what I had to say. The City Council did ask him about the deficit rather than the surplus he claims and he explained it away, in essence admitting to it and to the fact that he was lying about it. As far as I know I am the only person who has confronted him in front of a room of his Whinonettes. I'm surprised that the police weren't called, I let people know that I was there for sure. Not one of his Whinonettes tried to stop me and I was ranting throughout his entire speech. Being the coward he is, he didn't address me at all. We need more people to confront him publically except that then they risk groups like the ADL-LA coming down on them. And one of the leaders of ALF/ADL-LA has testified before Congress that it is okay to kill people over animals, so I guess people are too scared to confront him. I was threatened physically at my front door. I'm not afraid of them but they threatened to burn my home with my pets in it. I was scared for my pets, not for me. I ran, yes to keep them safe but I never stopped fighting. And with that fighting, Doug Rae was fired. Barnette got the hell outta Seattle. And I can assure you that I will get Barnette outta LA before it is over. Next stop is Austin.

Anonymous said...

And lest anyone think that Nathan Winograd did not set up the PACCA situation with his people that went on to commit horrific acts of abuse implementing Winograd No Kill and its abuse, well HE DID.

Lies, lies, an endless stream of lies.

A quote from Nathan Winograd. Think about this when you realize what they did to the animals.

"In 2005, the City of Philadelphia asked No Kill Solutions to do a complete assessment of shelter operations and make recommendations to improve program and service delivery with a goal of creating a No Kill Philadelphia. By implementing the recommendations of No Kill Solutions and by thoroughly integrating principles of accountability into shelter operations, in less than one year, there have been tremendous lifesaving gains. But no other change was more important—and would prove so key to saving lives—than our recommendation for the hiring of two new leaders: Tara Derby, who would become the new Chief Executive Officer, and Susan Cosby, the agency's Operations Director.

Nathan Winograd, the President of No Kill Solutions, explains:


I was immediately impressed when I interviewed Tara and Susan. They did not bring to the table the same old tired clich├ęs and approaches with its over-reliance on killing. In fact, Tara had no sheltering experience. But what both had was what I often find missing from most animal control directors: a passion for saving lives, a commitment to get the job done, a focus on the bottom line, and an abhorrence for killing."

THEN THEY KILLED, AND KILLED IN TERRIBLE WAYS! Winograd's people committed terrible abuses and neglect. But he is attacking volunteers and rescues, shelters workers and animal control?

Anonymous said...

This is the KNOWN HOARDER with a KNOWN HISTORY that Winograd's PACCA gave dogs to even after being warned, knowing the poor record and issues about these people and this place. Volunteers and rescue groups begged Winograd's cronies not to send dogs there! But they dumped PACCA dogs there anyway so they could lie and claim these dogs were "adopted," just to make the statistics look good.

Thankfully humane officers saved some and shut down this hellhole, and PACCA's crime got exposed. See why Winograd hates animal control and wants to get them fired? They investigate the cruelties and abuse connected to his No Kill Scam, as well as those of his puppy mill breeder friends!

"Harrisburg, PA
Mar 25, 2008

This place is out of business. It was closed down by authorities. The people who operated it were always claiming they were under attack...but who knows?

The owners of an animal-rescue shelter in Fayette County said they will close the shelter after state agents removed more than 200 dogs from their Luzerne residence.

"We're closing the kennel," said Rollin Barber, who operates Faithful but Forgotten Friends and Best Buddies in the village of Hibbs with his wife, Paula.
State humane agents said animal cruelty charges will be filed.

"On a cruelty scale of one to 10, this is a 10," said humane officer Reba McDonald of the Pennsylvania Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. "The kennels were in poor condition. In some cases, there were 10 to 12 dogs in one pen. The dogs were very thin and some were suffering from mange or dermatitis. Others were showing signs of aggression.

"There definitely was a lack of care," she said. "There definitely was a lack of sanitary conditions. There definitely were skin problems. There definitely were malnourishment problems. It was just out of control. "

The animals are being evaluated by veterinarians at society shelters in Clarion County, Centre Hall and Philadelphia.
Barber said humane agents and officials of the state Department of Agriculture arrived Thursday with a search warrant "filled with all sorts of probable cause." Barber said they voluntarily surrendered the animals, which were placed into horse trailers.
"We embraced the search warrant," Barber said. "They were not seized. We turned them over voluntarily. We wanted to close the kennel."
Barber said his wife and stepdaughter are ill, and he is 75 and can no longer care for the animals. He said veterinary bills cost them $25,000 a year.
"We simply couldn't do the work," Barber said.

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HonestyHelps said...

If you notice, he did away with the old blog of his where he bragged on Darby. He's tried to disassociate himself with her once he realized that the PSPCA was going to file charges and the truth would be coming out. He's such a coward.

Now they have Sue Crosby over the PSPCA and she is running it into the ground.

Anonymous said...

"Harrisburg, PA
Mar 25, 2008

This place is out of business. It was closed down by authorities. The people who operated it were always claiming they were under attack...but who knows?

The owners of an animal-rescue shelter in Fayette County said they will close the shelter after state agents removed more than 200 dogs from their Luzerne residence.

"We're closing the kennel," said Rollin Barber, who operates Faithful but Forgotten Friends and Best Buddies in the village of Hibbs with his wife, Paula.
State humane agents said animal cruelty charges will be filed.

"On a cruelty scale of one to 10, this is a 10," said humane officer Reba McDonald of the Pennsylvania Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. "The kennels were in poor condition. In some cases, there were 10 to 12 dogs in one pen. The dogs were very thin and some were suffering from mange or dermatitis. Others were showing signs of aggression.

"There definitely was a lack of care," she said. "There definitely was a lack of sanitary conditions. There definitely were skin problems. There definitely were malnourishment problems. It was just out of control. "

The animals are being evaluated by veterinarians at society shelters in Clarion County, Centre Hall and Philadelphia.
Barber said humane agents and officials of the state Department of Agriculture arrived Thursday with a search warrant "filled with all sorts of probable cause." Barber said they voluntarily surrendered the animals, which were placed into horse trailers.
"We embraced the search warrant," Barber said. "They were not seized. We turned them over voluntarily. We wanted to close the kennel."
Barber said his wife and stepdaughter are ill, and he is 75 and can no longer care for the animals. He said veterinary bills cost them $25,000 a year.
"We simply couldn't do the work," Barber said.

(as for Barber's comments, when they were faced with charges, they tried to claim, Nathan Winograd style, that they were being persecuted and bad people were attacking them, and all the other usual lies. They changed their tune when proof was obtained!)

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Anonymous said...

(Winograd's people knew about the history of this hoarding hellhole. It was documented from 2005 on! But his PACCA still dumped dogs there to make his "statistics" for his No Kill scam look good, so he could then go sell himself other places, as he is now. And this trail of abuse follows him and he tries to hide it! He has hidden it from Austin. Lies, I'm sick of this liar. My heart breaks for the poor animals that suffered and died that are what are the truth behind his lies)

"McDonald said agents removed 215 of 250 dogs.
"A lot of them were puppies," Barber said, because people often abandon pregnant dogs at the shelter.

The other 35 animals Barber described as family pets and old dogs.
He denied that the dogs were mistreated or neglected.
Barber said muddy conditions in the kennels were caused by recent rain. He admitted some dogs did have skin ailments because they came to the shelter in that condition.
"These were rescued dogs. It takes awhile to straighten them out," he said.

Barber, who has been embroiled in a zoning dispute during the past several years over his kennel and shelter, said neighbors have complained about the operation.

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Anonymous said...

"The Barbers applied for a special zoning exception in 2005 and 2006 to operate the shelter, but Fayette County Zoning Hearing Board denied those requests. They admitted last year at a zoning hearing that they operated the shelter for several years without a license.

The shelter's Web site claimed it was state-licensed and operated foster homes in West Virginia, Virginia, New Jersey and Maryland.
Barber teaches sociology at California University of Pennsylvania. His wife, Paula, 46, is a former attorney, who was suspended for two years in 2004 for professional negligence, according to records of the Disciplinary Board of the state Supreme Court.
Paula, who practiced law under the name of Paula Lappe, accepted retainers from two clients, did little or no work on their cases, and then abandoned her practice, according to the records. She failed to respond to the charges against her, didn't show up for a disciplinary hearing and failed to comply with a subpoena for her financial records."

HonestyHelps said...

I have published the news article on this site where George Bengal of the PSPCA said that hoarding has gone from one or two A YEAR to over one or two A MONTH since 05 when the Whino's program was installed with PACCA. It's pretty obvious I would say.

Winograd Sucks said...

Just came across this diddy from Charlottesville. True to form they also are devaluing pets.
Christmas in July CASPCA < tinytoypoodle > 07/25 09:33:43


If you are looking to add to your fur family check out the great pets at the CASPCA! 2 for 1 cats and kittens and half price dogs. if you want to take a Christmas gift to put under the tree look up their wish list!!! Best of luck to all the wonderful pets at the CASPCA

Two fer one is for selling shoes, not for selling pets.